Go Back   Maxum Boat Owners Club - Forum > Maxum General > Maxum Owners General Discussions
Click Here to Login
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-18-2018, 08:12 PM   #1
rwc
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 102
Default Zinc wastage and electrical leaks

I noticed yesterday that my zincs, which were replaced about two months ago already have noticeable deterioration (maybe 15%). My neighbour said that the water in the marina frequently tests high for voltage due to people having grounding issues leaking electricity into the water.

Is there a way for me to make sure it's not me that's leaking the electricity? I'd at least like to try and make sure I'm not the source of the problem...
__________________

rwc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2018, 08:32 PM   #2
Admiral
 
Phillbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lake Powell
Posts: 1,613
Default

It's easy. Boats that are leaking electricity typically experience strange rumbling noises when under way as well...

Don't swim in that marina.
__________________

Phillbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2018, 08:40 PM   #3
rwc
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 102
Default

lol.

Thanks Phillbo. I asked the same neighbour who told me about the electrical leaks if he swam in the marina to check things. My plan was to go tug on random things to see if anything was loose that shouldn't be loose.

His response was "Sure! I've got a mask right here if you want to borrow it. But... make sure you wash yourself off with the hose after - there are things in there..."

Electricity notwithstanding, I'm no longer terribly eager to go in the water.
rwc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2018, 10:14 PM   #4
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 10,232
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
It's easy. Boats that are leaking electricity typically experience strange rumbling noises when under way as well...

Don't swim in that marina.
Say what!
__________________
1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2018, 10:15 PM   #5
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 10,232
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rwc View Post
lol.

Thanks Phillbo. I asked the same neighbour who told me about the electrical leaks if he swam in the marina to check things. My plan was to go tug on random things to see if anything was loose that shouldn't be loose.

His response was "Sure! I've got a mask right here if you want to borrow it. But... make sure you wash yourself off with the hose after - there are things in there..."

Electricity notwithstanding, I'm no longer terribly eager to go in the water.
There is a probe you can buy that connects to a DVM, you lower it into the water to measure stray currents. The marina wiring could be faulty as well.
__________________
1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2018, 11:54 PM   #6
rwc
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmwjr View Post
There is a probe you can buy that connects to a DVM, you lower it into the water to measure stray currents. The marina wiring could be faulty as well.
So nothing I can measure on the boat then to see if it's mine? I was thinking maybe I could measure differential between draw on the main and the charger with everything else off, but I have no idea if a leak would be significant enough to register or not.
rwc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2018, 02:23 AM   #7
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 10,232
Default

Measure all metal that is in contact with the water on the millivolt scale to DC ground.
__________________
1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2018, 02:42 AM   #8
Admiral
 
Phillbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lake Powell
Posts: 1,613
Default

Without knowing what kind of boat you have I will still venture to guess the it's the larger boats in the marina that are the cause of the electrical charge... In my marina we have hundreds of 75' + boats that bleed electricity like crazy.
Phillbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2018, 02:02 PM   #9
Moderator

 
shrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,604
Default

Keep in mind that stray current electrocution from swimming is a concept around FRESHWATER marina's, not saltwater. You should be able to detect small amounts of stray current using a good multi-meter. The source can be anything from ungrounded boats, to shore cords in the water.
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 04:56 PM   #10
rwc
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 102
Default

I finally got around to checking into this. The zincs on my drive leg in particular were wasting rapidly. When I got in and started poking around, I discovered that the two grounds between the drive and the engine were both disconnected (one upper, one lower).

I reconnected them and also hooked them together with a larger zinc I had installed last time the boat was out of the water, and a valve that was not grounded. So now, most metal bits are all grounded together to one post on the back of the engine.

Now I'm concerned that maybe there was some legitimate reason the drive grounds were disconnected. Is anyone aware of a reason they would be? Did I do the right thing connecting everything together?

Is it possible that the rotation of the shaft in the drive might create a charge that would consume the zincs given that the drive was not grounded to anything else? I couldn't find any differential with DVM, but it seems odd that the drive zincs were so wasted while the trim tab zincs were not if this was an external leak from another boat.
rwc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2018, 09:56 PM   #11
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 10,232
Default

The drives bonding wires are required to ensure all pivoting components are tied together and at the same potential. No reason not to do this.
__________________

__________________
1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.