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Old 11-26-2014, 04:48 PM   #1
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I am considering buying a 2700SCR and while specs state I can tow this boat with my full size super charged Range Rover 400HP, I have never towed anything before and don't want to get myself into an unsafe situation. Looking for advise from current owner that tow theirs. I have found several with trailers some triple axle and some dual axle, what would be better? I was told that I can tow 9900 lbs and the boat is 7200 lbs from what I read but I am guess dry weight, what if it is full of fuel, what about pulling out of the water?

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Old 11-26-2014, 05:39 PM   #2
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Tippy welcome aboard.

What year 2700? Some years the beam is over 8'6" and May be considered over wide where you live.

Do not forget to add in the trailer weight, gas is 6 lbs per gallon and water is 8 lbs per gallon or vise versa having a brain fart.

Add in any gear and passengers and I think you will be exceeding what you Rover is rated for.
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Tippy,

Not sure who told you a RR can tow 9,900 lbs. All the specs say the tow rating is 7,700 lbs (and change). When towing, you need to be aware of two numbers: tongue weight and gross vehicle weight. Tongue weight is the limit on how much load you can put on the hitch itself. For balanced, safe towing, that should be around 10 to 15 percent of gross trailer weight. If you're loading the hitch outside of that range, it can be very unsafe. Tongue weight is determined by the strength of your hitch and the strength and stiffness of your chassis and suspension.

Gross vehicle weight is the maximum combined weight of trailer plus vehicle plus any additional cargo. A lot of vehicles list their "tow rating" as GVW, and people mistakenly assume it means trailer weight only. I strongly suspect that the 9,900 lbs rating you list is a GVW limit for towing with a RR, not a trailer weight limit. So you'd have to subtract out the car, passenger, and cargo loading from that to find out how big a trailer you can safely tow.

But the bigger issue for you will be the boat's beam. At 9'-8", you'll need a special permit to tow it.
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With towing, engine horsepower is only a small part of the equation. Brakes, resistance to sway, suspension stiffness, and visibility are all other important factors. Given that a rr is designed for suspension articulation, I would have a very hard time believing that it has a significant load bearing capability.

I once towed a 12,000 lb trailer with a Dodge Durango pickup. It was a really dumb thing to do. I had no trouble pulling it forward. But stopping... Well, im lucky to be alive.
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Well that changes everything as a noob I probably shouldn't be trying to tow something around that requires a special permit. I live in Florida and did a little research where 8'6" is the max width. I guess I need to consider smaller or a slip I really like the layout of the Maxums the 2400's seem popular. Back to towing and tongue weight is there an easy way to find/figure these numbers when looking at boats? If the RR is rated for 7,700 lbs what does that equal as far as tongue weight. While I would not want to try to tow the max I do need to understand the limits to keep things safe, probably a better question for the RR forums though.

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That set up has potential for the tail to wag the dog real fast. Buy a used 3/4 ton truck to use for the towing.
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Yes the longer wheel base the better off you are towing something that size. And I would slip it but still have the trailer. Check an auto trader web site for a used 3/4 ton truck. The trailer gives you the option to go anywhere you want. Look into what Florida requires for wide load trailering and I bet it will be a non-issue for your boat.

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Well that changes everything as a noob I probably shouldn't be trying to tow something around that requires a special permit. I live in Florida and did a little research where 8'6" is the max width. I guess I need to consider smaller or a slip I really like the layout of the Maxums the 2400's seem popular. Back to towing and tongue weight is there an easy way to find/figure these numbers when looking at boats? If the RR is rated for 7,700 lbs what does that equal as far as tongue weight. While I would not want to try to tow the max I do need to understand the limits to keep things safe, probably a better question for the RR forums though.

Thanks guys.
Well I have a 97' 2400 and weighs 5000 lbs dry, add a trailer at close to 2000 lbs and you are already at the limit of the RR.

Either get a truck for towing as others have suggested or find a nice marina.

Buying a truck to tow with will be cheaper than marina fees over the long run but marina life can add to enjoying the boat.

BTY the older 2700 such as 97' have an 8'6" beam
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:32 AM   #9
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Slip it.... You'll use the boat 10x more than if you trailer it!
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I have a 1995 2700 scr. I weighed and measured so here's what my totals were. Length from swim platform to anchor roller 29'6". Width 9'8". Weight with gear, batteries, stereo equiptment, etc 7.4L Bravo2 dry = 7700 lbs. 2007 Yacht Club Tri-axle Trailer 2340 lbs. Aprox 9000 lbs on the 3 axles and 1000 lbs on the hitch. That's just over 10,000 lbs. Add aprox 650 lbs fuel and 300 lbs water if full =11,000 lbs. I have a 3/4 ton reg cab 4x4 gas that's rated for 10,600 so if I have full boat plus my weight I am over my trucks limit. And wide load because over 8'6". If I get pulled over and they look hard I would have to pump out the fuel and water to be under the trucks limit. I may need a wide load permit. And my drivers license has a 10,000 lbs trailer weight limit. I may get it under that if I empty it out. I don't worry about any of it. I only trailer it 10 miles to boat launch. 120 miles once a year to Lake of The Woods. And 50 miles to park it for winter and bring it home in summer. The first summer I bought it 2010 I paid $1500 for dock fees/electricity/water/pump outs. 10 minutes from home I was on it all summer. It was nice. Spent $6000 on fuel and $4000 on booze in about 2 months. My boating season is only about 3 months. Now I keep it on the trailer on my driveway and launch it when I want to , to try and save a little money for now. Tri axle trailer is nice. Trailer tires deteriorate after 5 years so now I have to buy 6 new ones . Dual axle would only be 4. Dual axle easier to turn. Tri axle wants to run straighter. I don't have a problem backing sharp turn onto my driveway. Just a lot of creaking. Truck pulls out of water ok. Alls good.
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Im considering getting a trailer for my 3000 scr. A couple of haul out and bottom jobs done myself, and the trailer is paid for. I'm estimating I'd be at 14,000 lbs and my truck is rated for 20,000 combined weight. Truck weighs over 6,000 so I'd technically be over weight. I'm concerned about height though, its definitely an oversize load. And the fact that its a sharp turn to get through my gate.
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I have a 1995 2700 scr. I weighed and measured so here's what my totals were. Length from swim platform to anchor roller 29'6". Width 9'8". Weight with gear, batteries, stereo equiptment, etc 7.4L Bravo2 dry = 7700 lbs. 2007 Yacht Club Tri-axle Trailer 2340 lbs. Aprox 9000 lbs on the 3 axles and 1000 lbs on the hitch. That's just over 10,000 lbs. Add aprox 650 lbs fuel and 300 lbs water if full =11,000 lbs. I have a 3/4 ton reg cab 4x4 gas that's rated for 10,600 so if I have full boat plus my weight I am over my trucks limit. And wide load because over 8'6". If I get pulled over and they look hard I would have to pump out the fuel and water to be under the trucks limit. I may need a wide load permit. And my drivers license has a 10,000 lbs trailer weight limit. I may get it under that if I empty it out. I don't worry about any of it. I only trailer it 10 miles to boat launch. 120 miles once a year to Lake of The Woods. And 50 miles to park it for winter and bring it home in summer. The first summer I bought it 2010 I paid $1500 for dock fees/electricity/water/pump outs. 10 minutes from home I was on it all summer. It was nice. Spent $6000 on fuel and $4000 on booze in about 2 months. My boating season is only about 3 months. Now I keep it on the trailer on my driveway and launch it when I want to , to try and save a little money for now. Tri axle trailer is nice. Trailer tires deteriorate after 5 years so now I have to buy 6 new ones . Dual axle would only be 4. Dual axle easier to turn. Tri axle wants to run straighter. I don't have a problem backing sharp turn onto my driveway. Just a lot of creaking. Truck pulls out of water ok. Alls good.
You did not add in weight for fresh water, gear, and passangers. If the land is flat you may get away with it but the trucks drivetrain (u-joint, tranny, ...) will wear faster
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Im considering getting a trailer for my 3000 scr. A couple of haul out and bottom jobs done myself, and the trailer is paid for. I'm estimating I'd be at 14,000 lbs and my truck is rated for 20,000 combined weight. Truck weighs over 6,000 so I'd technically be over weight. I'm concerned about height though, its definitely an oversize load. And the fact that its a sharp turn to get through my gate.

Another thing is the ramp and parking of where you plan to launch from. I have found most launch areas near me did not have parking lots set up to swing such a long trailer into a space.
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The ramp im thinking about using will be fine. They pull out tug boats there. I am a little concerned about traction getting back up the ramp though. My truck is 2wd.
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I need 4 wheel drive engaged to pull mine out. I live on flat lands otherwise I'd be looking for a diesel with more pulling power. I don't tow very often.
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Water was calculated at 300 lbs. Gear included in 7700 lbs boat. That's probably why it weighs more than than any specs I've read. Passengers take their own vehicles and meet me at the launch. I only have a regular cab truck. When my boat passengers go home I spend the night on the boat.
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that is a very big boat to be towing on a regular basis especially if you are new to towing anything. the height is also something you have to consider. non commercial streets will prob have low wires or limbs.
I'd suggest buying a smaller boat more suitable to towing =<24' or dock it. hauling that boat in and out is way more than you think..
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I disagree.. A 2700 is easily towed but you need the proper vehicle (not a Range Rover).

My buddy tows his 2800 SCR all the time and height is never an issue.
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A 2700 even with an arch should not have any issues with hitting power lines, low branches may be another story but only the OP knows the roads he will be towing on.

Once towing not much difference between a 24' and a 27', braking should be ok as well as both require trailer brakes.
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24' or 27' neither should be towed by something with a wheelbase as short as a range rovers. Talk about the tail waging the dog.
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