Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-26-2022, 07:30 PM   #1
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default Export Log in water, fell off Bulk ship, yes we hit

A week ago was a beautiful day in Nanaimo, and while in the Nanaimo Harbour floatplane landing zone, my 3200SCR "Therapy" struck an export log just under the waterline at 26kts. Looks like at a minimum one leg is a total loss and the other we still investigating. Both props are done. There was a bulk carrier very near by loading the deck with the exact same type of logs we hit (debarked/ends cut, about 30'L and 1.5'W). Nanaimo NPA gathers wood debris and sells it, so they likely have this log. Seems to me that the company loading these logs should be responsible for my deductible, and answering to my insurance company. What if a seaplane hit it?!? Any Maritime Lawyers in this group?
Attached Thumbnails
legs.jpg  
__________________

geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2022, 01:37 PM   #2
Moderator

 
shrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,317
Default

I hit a dead head at around 23kts and it tore a 1.5" tear in only one blade of a Bravo III outdrive (2 props). However, it sheared a tooth on the gear in in the upper portion of the outdrive. The drive needed to be completely rebuilt. You can't replace just one gear, and once the metal shards start getting in there you need to replace all the seals as well.

Since my drive casing was starting to show signs of galvanic corrosion, I simply replaced the entire outdrive.
__________________

shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2022, 01:40 PM   #3
Moderator

 
shrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,317
Default

As for the legal suit. Since it was saw cut, I suppose you could call it jetsam, however logs as flotsam occur all the time. It is going to be a challenge to prove that the log you hit came from a specific vessel and as a result of their negligence.

I would pose your theory to the insurance company and let them decide if they want to pursue the lumber vessel.
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2022, 04:33 PM   #4
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

Thanks, always word of wisdom Shrew. Had both legs off yesterday and they're going to be torn down and repaired or replaced; skeg is gone off starboard Couldn't even shift into reverse on that side. Re the log owner: insurance co. is going today to check the Harbour Authorities gathering ground to see if they have it, as they haven't sold what they've gathered yet. Should be some paint or prop still in it. If they find it, and it did come from the suspected ship loading, I know them and will ask for my deductible - watch this space!
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2022, 01:29 PM   #5
Moderator

 
shrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,317
Default

Good Luck. They make bolt on skeg replacements. On the drive that can't shift, even in idle, will sound like a coffee grinder if there are sheared teeth getting crunch in there.
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2022, 03:43 PM   #6
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

So far we're getting a whole new housing for the starboard leg and there was no grinding heard, just a heavy clunk when sifting and it would pop out of gear on the other. Still looking into the port leg, might know more today.
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2022, 09:18 PM   #7
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default Log strike update

$28,000 and counting still, legs are repaired, new props and back in the water after 32 days on the hard. Ever since going back in on Friday, the bilge is taking on seawater. Looks like steering shaft seals are gone because apparently they dried out.
Attached Thumbnails
newlegs.jpg  
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2022, 09:22 PM   #8
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

as for the claim portion, the port authority won't let me in to their debris ground to look for my log!
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 02:30 PM   #9
Moderator

 
shrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,317
Default

Check to make sure you're not taking in water at the transom assembly. I would haul my boat for 6-7 months every year. I never heard of shaft seals going bad as a result of sitting on the hard.
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 03:48 PM   #10
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 9,301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrew View Post
Check to make sure you're not taking in water at the transom assembly. I would haul my boat for 6-7 months every year. I never heard of shaft seals going bad as a result of sitting on the hard.
Me either shrew. I kept my boat in a boatel for over 10 years and never had an issue with the seals.
__________________
1997 2400 SCR
5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 05:22 PM   #11
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

Thanks for this Gents, have a Bravo2 specialist working on them and he adds that although he has yet to open them up, the location of the water intrusion and the salt remnants on the inside plate in the bilge indicates to him that the seals are gone. This guy and the insurance adjuster say a log strike wouldn't do that, but sitting on the ground will?!? How can I prove them wrong? They certainly were not leaking before we hit!
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 05:37 PM   #12
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 9,301
Default

As you can see from my signature I also have a Bravo 2. 10 years in a boatel and now 3 years on lift still have the original seals. If what they are saying is true all Mercruiserís would have bad seals from over winter storage. Total BS.
__________________
1997 2400 SCR
5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 06:02 PM   #13
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

Fak! They add this is why Mercury makes the replacement plugs for drilling the top of the case.
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 06:51 PM   #14
Captain
 
donald's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Mn.
Posts: 599
Default

Find another mechanic.
Don
__________________
1995 Maxum 2400 SCR 5.7 A1 G2 LUNA DE MIEL
1988 Bayliner 2455 5.0 IO (sold)
1987 Seaswerl 18ft C. Cabin 4.3 IO(lost in fire)
1998 Alumacraft 170 Trophy Mariner 100hp/Evinrude 9.9hp
donald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 07:20 PM   #15
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 9,301
Default

Write to Mercruiser help and ask them to provide a letter.
__________________
1997 2400 SCR
5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2022, 07:21 PM   #16
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

Excellent idea, thanks
geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2022, 01:25 PM   #17
Moderator

 
shrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,317
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffm70 View Post
Looks like steering shaft seals are gone because apparently they dried out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffm70 View Post
.......Bravo2 specialist working on them and he adds that although he has yet to open them up, the location of the water intrusion and the salt remnants on the inside plate in the bilge indicates to him that the seals are gone. This guy and the insurance adjuster say a log strike wouldn't do that, but sitting on the ground will?!? How can I prove them wrong? They certainly were not leaking before we hit!

I think we need to clarify the statements a little here. The underlined portion starts as a statement and ends as a question.

1) What are they calling 'sitting on the ground? Do they mean the boat being hauled, or a grounding?

I assume they are referring to being hauled and the seal drying out, because if they are talking about a grounding, that is effectively what you had when you hit the log. I can't see the seal drying out and rotting over such a short amount of time.

2) Are THEY stating that 'sitting on the ground' (as yet to be defined) caused this issue, or are you asking?
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2022, 05:12 PM   #18
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Nanaimo, BC
Posts: 124
Default

Sorry, what I meant is she was hauled out and sitting on the ground for 38 days. And they (repairman and insurance adjuster) say the seals are old and the drying out caused the leaks.
__________________

geoffm70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.