Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-05-2013, 06:15 PM   #1
Ensign
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jersey Channel Islands
Posts: 14
Default Water in aft cabin

Hi All
I am after some advise please as i am a new first time boat owner.I have just bought a 3000scr 1997 and when we checked on boat today the aft cabin floor had 3 inches of water in it.I can see no evidence of any leaks from above and the area where the pump and water tank is was also full of water.Has anyone ever heard of this before as i am now worried there could be a serious problem with our new purchase.Any advise would be greatly appreciated:
__________________

Jayjay71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 08:14 PM   #2
Captain
 
Phillbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 854
Default

Is the boat in a slip or on a trailer? That sounds like a LOT of water. Is the engine bay flooded?

If you're in a slip I would consider having it hauled ASAP.


on edit: I just looked at some pics of the layout of that boat and I must be reading this wrong because 3 " in the Aft Cabin would mean the bilge is completely flooded and the swim deck would probably be close to being submerged.

We need more details.
__________________

Phillbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 11:00 PM   #3
Ensign
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jersey Channel Islands
Posts: 14
Default

Thanks for reply.there is a small step down to aft cabin area of about 6-8 inches creating a recessed floor of about 5ft by 5ft.this whole area has 3 inches of water in it.there is no water in the engine bay at all.As you come out of aft cabin there is a small hatch in floor where the bilge pump is,and this hatch was full of water also but the carpet above this hatch is dry.I hope i have explained this well .
Jayjay71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 11:10 PM   #4
Ensign
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jersey Channel Islands
Posts: 14
Default

Thanks for reply.there is a small step down to aft cabin area of about 6-8 inches creating a recessed floor of about 5ft by 5ft.this whole area has 3 inches of water in it.there is no water in the engine bay at all.As you come out of aft cabin there is a small hatch in floor where the bilge pump is,and this hatch was full of water also but the carpet above this hatch is dry.I hope i have explained this well .The boat is moored on non drying marina.
Jayjay71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 11:29 PM   #5
Captain
 
pascavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Massapequa, New York, United States
Posts: 762
Default

the boat is open under the carpeted floor from the anchor hatch, to your aft cabin, which is under the driver seat.

so the water, from the rain, horn hole, windless, all drips down to the bilge pump as the boat goes fast in the water. That is what the forward bilge is for,

They split these two compartment from the engine room, because of the chance of carbon monoxide. So engine room has its own bilge and water will flow backwards under the fuel tanks to it.


Usually, the forward bilge is dead on an old boat, so i'd just check it.

Any drinking water line leaks will end up in your forward compartment , or leaking windows, leaking rub rail, or bow rail post leaking.


welcome to the wonder world of used boats....
pascavone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 11:43 PM   #6
Commander
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 328
Default

If the 3000 is anything like the 3200, under the main cabin floor is the water tank that holds your drinking water.
jamanati is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 01:01 PM   #7
Moderator

 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,556
Default

If water is coming from below, it will only come from one of 4 places:

1) Bellows/outdrive area
2) A/C seacock
3) Head seacock
4) Hole in the hull

Otherwise it is coming from above. now that is relative. How far above is yet to be seen. Are the cushions wet? I'd check particularly underneath the cushions. 3" is a lot of water. most rub rail, stanchion type leaks wouldn't create enough to water to actually collect and stand. If they were, it would be a noticable leak. I'd be apt to check a plumbing fitting. If you leave the water pump switch on, do you periodically hear the water pump short-cycle. It should not. The pump is a pressure pump. It turns on when water pressure drops below a certain threshold, then turns off when the pressure in the lines is raised again. Short cycling means that water pressure is dropping. unless you're turning on the faucet, this would mean a lea somewhere.
__________________
Leave me alone, it's Boating Season!!!
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2013, 09:38 PM   #8
Ensign
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jersey Channel Islands
Posts: 14
Default

Thanks for all the advise .The problem was a cracked t joint on fresh water system that was leaking and the aft bilge was dead.
Jayjay71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2013, 05:26 PM   #9
Moderator

 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,556
Default

Yep, that would definitely do it. So the good news is you found it. The bad news is, ever single connector in your freshwater system is now suspect. These most commonly rupture due to improper winterization. I had one let go on me. Once that first one let go, then another one and another one. I ended replacing every single connector in the boat and found about 30-40% had stress cracking on them indicating they would have eventually let go as well. Some guys will drain the tank, then blow the freshwater system out with an aircompressor. If ALL of the not is not purged, then it can collect at a low spot and if enough water collects in that low spot, it can freeze and blow out the connector. If the faucets are cracked open, you'd think the expanding water (ice) would work it's way up the empty tube toward the open valve as that would be the point of least resistance. This does not always seem to be the case and stress fracturing can occur as a result.

I'd prefer to drain the entire system then fill it with propylene glycol until it is flowing pink from all faucets. Just a thought.
__________________
Leave me alone, it's Boating Season!!!
shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2013, 05:57 PM   #10
Ensign
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jersey Channel Islands
Posts: 14
Default

Good advice on the glycol.She is being lifted out of the water tomorrow for a thorough check as the previous owner only took her out twice in 10 years What a crime! And i am expecting a few more little surprises yet.
__________________

Jayjay71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.