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Old 06-21-2008, 09:30 PM   #11
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If installed: They're illegal

The American braking systems are totally different to the UK ones, in that they are often controlled electronically - from the car. The UK cars don't have this controller therefore, the brakes might be there... but they aren't doing anything.
It does have US hydraulic brakes and it does not have any electrical control, this is purely mechnically driven via the tow hitch.

I am aware of the issues of hydraulic brakes & use of US trailers in UK.

The Maxum main dealer imports the boats on these trailers, which is interesting.
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Old 06-21-2008, 11:05 PM   #12
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Not to be petty, but one or two do, there is no Maxum UK as such... Pictons don't for example....

The only reason the US trailers are sold here is because they are cheap and to serve, legally, as launch trailers. The Dealers are being cheeky though as they know the trailers will have to hit UK roads to get to their new home. That's the loophole on which they sell them... problem is... Hydraulic brakes should be serviced annually and they don't have a handbrake. Which makes them very dangerous as the average tow vehicle here is nothing like the average tow vehicle in the US.. I've seen numerous cars on slip ways be dragged all the way to the water by the boat on its trailer (within its tow rating) - a handbrake is a simple way to stop this.

Sorry to be an arse, it's not my intention... Just gets my heckles up when I see these as in my opinion, and others, the trailers are dodgy at best. If I were you I'd call Andy at SBS trailers, have a new axle and coupler (with HB) bolted on, to meet the capacity you want and to get the trailer to UK spec - You're then covered AND you're concern over capacity if sorted; maybe the supplying dealer will help with costs a bit if you wave a legal case at them over providing a trailer that's not up to spec.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:42 PM   #13
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Not to be petty, but one or two do, there is no Maxum UK as such... Pictons don't for example....

The only reason the US trailers are sold here is because they are cheap and to serve, legally, as launch trailers. The Dealers are being cheeky though as they know the trailers will have to hit UK roads to get to their new home. That's the loophole on which they sell them... problem is... Hydraulic brakes should be serviced annually and they don't have a handbrake. Which makes them very dangerous as the average tow vehicle here is nothing like the average tow vehicle in the US.. I've seen numerous cars on slip ways be dragged all the way to the water by the boat on its trailer (within its tow rating) - a handbrake is a simple way to stop this.

Sorry to be an arse, it's not my intention... Just gets my heckles up when I see these as in my opinion, and others, the trailers are dodgy at best. If I were you I'd call Andy at SBS trailers, have a new axle and coupler (with HB) bolted on, to meet the capacity you want and to get the trailer to UK spec - You're then covered AND you're concern over capacity if sorted; maybe the supplying dealer will help with costs a bit if you wave a legal case at them over providing a trailer that's not up to spec.
Actually Pictons do - it was them I bought the boat & trailer from.
Their comment is that is cheaper to get boat supplied on it's trailer than taken off trailer and crated up.
They did point out it is not UK legal ... but many clients use them with no problem.

I appreciate what you are saying ... but the original Q had nothing to do with brakes ... it was the fact that the standard trailer Maxum supply for the boat will have it's maximum capacity exceeded simply by having a full tank of fuel !
This VIN number is a specific build for Maxum.
Something I am surprised at.

Regarding reworking my trailer ...
If I were to change axle, this would be expensive, as I would also have to change coupling as hydraulic brakes would then be unusable.

So new axle, new brakes, new coupling .... way too expensive for me, maybe in future.
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:05 PM   #14
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When I was looking for a boat it was thought I would end up with a boat of american decent so I asked at my local trailer place about modifying a trailer with new axle and hitch and it came out at about £600 inc fitting which I didn't think was too bad Not much good to you really if your in south wales

As luck would have it my maxum is on a indespension trailer brakes are still no good, looks like they left the trailer in the sea while they used the boat for weeks on end (another job)
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Picton did offer to put it on a roller coaster trailer - but that would cost an extra £1200.
They advised most people just use them 'as is' ........ not sure what I will do going forward.
Just seems such a waste to throw away what is new axle, brakes, coupling etc.
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My boat came from Pictons and I was offered 2 options - a twin axle Snipe or a single axle Snipe.

Not much use now though as Snipe have gone belly up!
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Picton sold boat on the US standard trailer, they did offer me an exchange to roller trailer for £1000 .... but added that many stick with the standard US trailers.

Now had interesting feedback .. my understanding of trailer being 'over loaded' with 4.3 engine is correct.
Depending on actual hull & engine combination it can exceed max carry.

Maxum have advised they are to supply a warranty retro fit kit of bigger wheels & tyres which will bring the capacity up.
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