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Old 06-23-2011, 06:10 PM   #1
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Default Biting off more than I can chew summer project.

Ok so I thought I'd start with the before thread of my insanity. To preface the situation my boat is on an inland lake in a covered marina. The boat does not have a trailer and the marina charges $600 to take a boat out and put it back in for repairs. I have the opportunity to use a friends triple axel trailer to take the boat out but only for a few days. That coupled with my wife being bedridden after a surgery and my folks taking my to young kids for all of next week. Therefore I have a very unique and rare occassion not only to get my boat pulled but also to have four nights to work on it without the normal schedule of kids and wife. So on my list to accomplish Mon-Thursday next week is:

1. Sunday night pull boat.
2. Monday morning pull prop from port side and drive it 70 miles to a prop shop to have a significant bend in one arm refinished. (they can do it in 3 days if I bring it in on Monday).
3. Sand the bottom paint above and around the water line as it was stained with a cleaner and while the paint is good it looks like crap.
4. Tape off the line and touch up paint around the entire boat.
5. Clean entire boat with the Polyglow pre-treatment removing all stains, wax, and scratches.
6. Remove 3300SCR emblems.
7. Remove the green (obnoxious and scratched) pin strip from around the entire boat.
8. Buff out the discoloration (minor) from pin stripe.
9. Remove the decals from the back of that boat and prep the surface.(in pics you will notice that my transom port side door has a bad crack in the bottom left hand corner. It has been glued back very well but replacing the door proved to be harder than I thought so.......
10. Re-apply the new graphics being made this week at my buddies shop in a black/purple diamond pattern with shadow to the starboard side. Port of lake perry will be centered through the bottom.
11. Custom make a "Power Cat" (Kansas State University Logo) that matches the name and at the same time covers the annoying scratch.
12. marina fiberglass shop on Tuesday should be fixing the hole in swim platform. (been waiting 3 months for that)
13. Apply polyglow multiple times to entire boat.
14. Apply purchased polyglow stainless treatment to all rails.
15. Replace all dash lights with red led bulbs.
16. Replace anchor light with superbright led clears.
17. Replace nav lights with red/green leds.
18. Replace all cockpit lights with leds.
19. Install new DC plug inside of starboard side transom cabinet for easy access for toys.
20. Have local mechanic meet me on hilltop to drain drives, change oil, lube boat, change genny impeller, adjust throttles, lube drives, put prop back on and whatever else he thinks needs done that he can do out of the sight of our marina who doesn't like losing the business although he is 70% cheaper.
21. Put back on fixed prop.
22. Splash Boat
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:00 PM   #2
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WOW!!...don't drink any beer till it's all done or you'll never get it finished....

let us know how it works out...

is there anyone here on the forum that lives close by that would be willing to help him out???..

I don't want to read his obit's in the general forum...


hope your wife heals soon from surgery....

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You said you have 4 nights?

What are you going to do with the other 3?

Seriously though - how best to put this....... Oh, oh - I know. You, sir, are nuts!

Hate to be a nay-sayer but maybe if you had 4 solid days you could get all that done. Example, when I removed the previous registration numbers from my boat they left a ghost from where they were. I spent at least 2 hours trying to compound the ghosts out and still wasn't able to completely remove them. I'm afraid you'll suffer the same fate when you try to buff out the pin stripe and lettering. It's simply going to take longer than you think.

You might want to have a contingency plan incase your prop isn't finished on time. You might also consider taking in both props so they end up "matching".

Maybe just me, but I'd break down the list between things that must be done while on the hard vs. what can be done while floating.

That is one ambitious list to knock off in 4 evenings.

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I tend to agree with the above, that is one huge amount to be done there if done properly. The 'ghosting' cant always be got rid of, colour fades and no amount of machine buffing will match old and new. Have come across this too many times debadging cars and trucks.

20. Have local mechanic meet me on hilltop to drain drives, change oil, lube boat, change genny impeller, adjust throttles, lube drives, put prop back on and whatever else he thinks needs done that he can do out of the sight of our marina who doesn't like losing the business although he is 70% cheaper.

Hope that all goes to plan too, from experience it never goes to plan, he either wont have a minor part or will come across something else that needs doing...its a pain in the butt!
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I'm all over the contingency plans. My biggest concern is actually just getting her out of water, makes me nervous as hell. The decal and sticker removal won't be a cake walk but since my best friend owns a sign shop having some good tools will make a difference. I've tested a small spot with the pin stripe and the shadow is not bad at all, if it is that bad I'll put one back on. The decals on the back are under a year old and mostly on the plastic so those will be a piece of cake.

The prop shop in our area is awesome. I have talked to them twice with the assurance of a two day turnaround so that doesn't worry me.

The bottom paint and polyglow is my time concern. I'm going to hire some help to do the initial wash and scrub with the pre-poly during the day so I can concentrate on the rest. Luckily the bottom paint is not a complete job but a touch up so it won't be impossible.

Since I'm usually maintaining a boat while entertaining a 2 year old and a 5 year old; four evenings with nothing is actually like 3 straight months before I had kids.....so with some good planning and execution I'm ready to hit it.
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I tend to agree with the above, that is one huge amount to be done there if done properly. The 'ghosting' cant always be got rid of, colour fades and no amount of machine buffing will match old and new. Have come across this too many times debadging cars and trucks.

20. Have local mechanic meet me on hilltop to drain drives, change oil, lube boat, change genny impeller, adjust throttles, lube drives, put prop back on and whatever else he thinks needs done that he can do out of the sight of our marina who doesn't like losing the business although he is 70% cheaper.

Hope that all goes to plan too, from experience it never goes to plan, he either wont have a minor part or will come across something else that needs doing...its a pain in the butt!

What might help on this guy is this: The "local mechanic" was the head mercruiser certified tech at our local boat house/ largest four winns dealer around place. They went out of business two years ago and he went to work for himself. Insured, equipped, and I will have two local part shops within a short drive as well.
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Since I'm usually maintaining a boat while entertaining a 2 year old and a 5 year old; four evenings with nothing is actually like 3 straight months before I had kids.....so with some good planning and execution I'm ready to hit it.
LOL - so very true, I sure remember those days and actually miss them sometimes. But only sometimes.

$600.00 for a haul seems just a wee bit excessive from what I've read but it seems they've got you by the, um, straps.

Best of luck with the list! I have to guess there will be at least one good story at the end of those 4 days.

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Yeah welcome to small lake boating. We have two marina's and I actually moved to the reasonable one. They charge $8.75 a foot both ways to pull a boat, they don't have a yard trailer so they are always using the straps and crane to pull a boat. It's just plain rediculous. Luckily I have a buddy with a similar sized boat who bought a triple axle trailer so he could take his out in the winter. I've offered him cash and he's refused which is nice. We've actually had discussions between 3 or 4 of us to find and buy a used trailer just to keep on the grounds. Hell saving the pull charge usually pays for the item your needing to fix.

The good news for all of this is short of the prop not getting done the boat could be splashed without any of the other work being done. Might look like crap but not entering into a discussion of not having an operable boat.....so not to worried. Other than prop, drive oil, and touch up of bottom paint the rest "could" be done on the water just not as easy. The hour intensive project will be the entire boat cleaning and bottom paint....I'll hit that the first two nights and go from there. All the interior, lighting, and additions will probably be done on the water......but we will see.......I want to get started now but just can't until Sunday.
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when I removed the previous registration numbers from my boat they left a ghost from where they were. I spent at least 2 hours trying to compound the ghosts out and still wasn't able to completely remove them. I'm afraid you'll suffer the same fate when you try to buff out the pin stripe and lettering. It's simply going to take longer than you think.

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tackleshep,

One word of advise....Set achievable goals. If you want a shoddy job with your poliglow, don't worry you'll get it IF, that is IF you don't prepare it properly. Using this product will only yield it's true potential and your future happiness, IF (there's that word again) you set enough time aside to properly prepare it and apply it.

Regarding the Ghosting, I was faced wtih the same thing when I removed the old raised oem 3300scr letters from the boat. The good news here is the Poliox (like barkeepers friend type stuff) will work if you scrub the area in the direction of the letters. And for that matter, all of the boat, Don't scrub it in circles but instead like you were sanding wood in one direction bow to stern. For that reason explain to the Gal that will wash the boat exactily what to do.

Just for your information, It took me and my two sons (19-22) a full day to scrub the boat with poliprep and poliox enough to get rid of all the staines on the boat. Then another two days with my boys to seal it. Soooooooo.....

Again set achiveable goals.........

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I gotta agree with the above. Halfway through the post, I said "There is no way". Not nights only. I completely agree with Bella. Set achievable goals. I would break that list into mechanical and cosmetic. Then break the mechanical into what can be done in the water and what needs to be done before you relaunch.

This can all be done after you relaunch:

15. Replace all dash lights with red led bulbs.
16. Replace anchor light with superbright led clears.
17. Replace nav lights with red/green leds.
18. Replace all cockpit lights with leds.
19. Install new DC plug inside of starboard side transom cabinet for easy access for toys.

This MUST be done:

1. Sunday night pull boat.
2. Monday morning pull prop from port side and drive it 70 miles to a prop shop to have a significant bend in one arm refinished. (they can do it in 3 days if I bring it in on Monday).
12. marina fiberglass shop on Tuesday should be fixing the hole in swim platform. (been waiting 3 months for that)
20. Have local mechanic meet me on hilltop to drain drives, change oil, lube boat, change genny impeller, adjust throttles, lube drives, put prop back on and whatever else he thinks needs done that he can do out of the sight of our marina who doesn't like losing the business although he is 70% cheaper.
21. Put back on fixed prop.
22. Splash Boat


The rest is cosmetic. You can certainly attack some of it if you have the time. I would take it one project at a time to completion. Remove all the graphics and buff. See where you are. Once you start a project, like replacing graphics or in particular poliglow application, you're committed to completing that task. I truly wish you the best of luck. You did say you were working nights. Maybe you find that your wife's post op surgery is requiring more care than anticipated and you need to take a few days off from work to care for her.
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