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Old 08-26-2011, 03:24 PM   #11
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Yes the bolts were tight.... Got her all secured till after the storm passes... I think the plan is.... to get a starter from the junk yard off a 4.3L S-10 pickup truck and see what happens. I am Suspecting that the bendix or solenoid might be weak. http://theboat92.shutterfly.com/pictures/171 , http://theboat92.shutterfly.com/pictures/171#170 , http://theboat92.shutterfly.com/pictures/106
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:25 PM   #12
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Okay, to understand your problem...
Try iginition.
solenoid throws starter gear out, but it does go far enough to engage flywheel
starter turns fine, but gear continues to sit just shy of the flywheel.
sound of starter is okay, just not quite as it was when working - no loading.

Have you checked the shaft and drive lever and gears? the gear and drive lever should slide manually without too much effort, the solenoid may be getting weak or things might be binding on the shaft due to damage or build-up..
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I would stay away from an automotive starter unless you are just doing this as a test only. Thos units are not sealed and you will be putting yourself at greater explosion risk and the unit will most likely fail sooner due to moisture exposure.
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Starter update: after lots of digging around and talking to everyone I called a local Marine repair shop and talked to the sales person to order a Starter. We talked about the problem and he said that it sounds like a "Low voltage" problem, sooooo back on the web to find a wiring schematic and I think I have found the problem, the wires going to the starter have been put on the wrong post all this time. When I took the starter off I tagged the wires so I would put them back in the location where they came from, but I guess the last person to install the starter didn't. As soon as the RAIN passes(Saturday) I'll install the starter and wires in the proper locations and let everyone the outcome.
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Am struggling to understand how it would have ever started with the wiring on the wrong posts..........

Can you elaborate Todd?

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Old 09-07-2011, 05:11 PM   #16
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Me too... I am a Helicopter mechanic by trade, the only thing I know about wires is...if you let the smoke out of the wires they don't work...LOL but
Seriously I guess it will work but barely which has been the case all along, when I first got The Boat, the starter didn't sound good at all(crunchy is the only way I can describe the sound) , but the engine started. Till I guess some corrosion or something else created a voltage drop low enough that it now wont engage the flywheel. At any rate it was wired incorrectly, I found a engine wiring schematic.... and Saturday (after morning coffee) I will reinstall the starter and put the wires in the proper locations. At this point the only thing I am sure the wiring was not correct.... The solenoid has 4 prongs, 2 Large and 2 small, one Large one is power from the Battery and FUSE ASSY(90 AMP) , the other goes to the Starter motor. Now for The two small ones 1 is marked "R" (and NOT used in this application) and the other is marked "S"(Closest to the ENG), The RED/PURPLE should be attached to the Fuse (from the alternator) it wasn't, The YEL/RED (From the Starter Solenoid on top of the engine)should go on the prong marked "S", and Lastly a ORN wire (from the alternator), I am putting in a NEW FUSE ASSY-90 AMP (#88-79023A91) only $25.00.

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Old 09-10-2011, 02:27 PM   #17
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Wellllll looks like my boating days are ove this season, the engine block is cracked where the starter mounts. gezzzzzz wanted to go out a few more times before it got cold. Looks like dry dock for me till tax money comes in next year!

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Major bummer, Todd - really sucks.
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