What Trailer do I need

[9Ball]

When I bought my boat, the previous owner said the trailer was not the right one, How can I find out the proper trailer for my Boat. 92 2100SC

[vffb507]

Visit a reputable dealer and see what advise they can give. But you need to match the weight of the boat as you'd trailer it - dry plus gear and water etc. to the rating of the trailer, plus always good to add some leeway. Also the style of trailer should match hull design. Bunkers or rollers I'm not sure about though... I prefer bunks myself.

[9Ball]

Mine has the Bunkers, and I think its a pain to get the boat centered on them, always pulling up and backing back down into the water to get it centered, I was thinking rolles would center better? and I think to trailer is about 1 ft too short. I'll try to upload a pic in about a hour.

[ss3964spd]

Yeah, hard to say without seeing photos of the boat loaded on the trailer.

Aside from the actual load capacity of the trailer, it needs to be long enough so that when the boat is loaded transom is fully supported by the bunks or rollers, and that the correct tongue weight is on the tow vehicle - proper tongue weight is achived by moving the boat either backwards or forwards on the trailer.

To start, ya really need to have a very close idea of what the boat weighs "wet" (water, gas, oil, etc).

Dan

[mcoffey]

I have a 96 2100SR with the Maxum branded Escort trailer. It is a painted grey bunk style trailer, dual axle, surge brakes on both axles and has MAXUM on the rails towards to the front on each side.
Now with this trailer, my bunks extend out from the back of the transom about 1 inch when the boat is fully up on trailer (front bow eye just at bottom of roller).

Not sure what the 92 came with but maybe this info will help in some way :)

[9Ball]

1976 I have some other pics at home, I can post later tonight. the 2100 SC, seems to be very stern heavy (Aft GC)and as a result not being on the correct trailer the Bow bounces just a little and sometimes the straps on the transom will pop off, now I am not a dummy(just don't ask my 1st wife..LOL) I was a Crew chief on CH-53E's for many years, I have moved some cargo in my day and know how to use the straps. The Boat just moves around too much on the Trailer. Not sure how much tongue weight there is but I feel that it is sufficient, I think the truck (08-F-150 2wd, Crewcab) rearend settles about 3 inches.

[mcoffey]

Whoops, small correction here. Had it backwards, sorry. When fully up on trailer, transmon overhangs bunk by 1 inch or so. See attached (not so great) pic.

Note that this was before I cleaned the hull, it looks much better than this now :lol:

[9Ball]

Mcoffey, What kinda boat is it

[mcoffey]

Mcoffey, What kinda boat is it
Mine is a 96 2100SR.

Not sure how much yours weighs but NADA lists it as Net Wt. 1780 lbs. That just can't be right, can it? Mine shows as 2839 lbs.
Now most single axle trailers can only handle up to 4000 lbs so depending on what this thing really weighs, you may be ok. Maybe it just needs some adjustment. Is the axle bolted to the frame where it coud be slid back if needed?

I did notice the VA stickers, where do you put her? I am in Loudoun County and have mine down at Lake Anna.

[ss3964spd]

No way a '92 2100 SC weighs less than 2000 like NADA suggests, and not likely that it weighs less than 3K.

The transom is probably around 2" thick, and ties into the sides and the stingers. The engine is sitting on the stringers and the drive is hanging on the transom.

If you are trailering a lot you really do want the bottom of the transom resting on the bunks or rollers.

[9Ball]

WOW the NADA says mine is 1780 Lbs. also Lets see.... add gear (200 Lbs), plus gas (30*6.1=183) = 2163 Lbs on the trailer (Mmmmm 3 bags of ice, a case of beer, 3 lbs of fried bird...etc, Tool box) So I guess we might want to say 2400 Lbs just to be safe.

Oh just remembered I am off this friday (CWS Day) I'll "try" to get a weight Friday. I'll tow Boat and trailer to the moving company(they have a scale) then put the Boat in the water, come back and weigh it again (without the Boat) and before Beer is involved ;) .... simple math should tell us the weight of the Boat.


I actually live in Patuxent River MD, and put in on the Base.

[9Ball]

No way a '92 2100 SC weighs less than 2000 like NADA suggests, and not likely that it weighs less than 3K.

The transom is probably around 2" thick, and ties into the sides and the stingers. The engine is sitting on the stringers and the drive is hanging on the transom.

If you are trailering a lot you really do want the bottom of the transom resting on the bunks or rollers.

Absolutely, I defiantly need to do something, I am thinking maybe move the axle aft about 2 in, and extend the bunkers, I haven’t towed it any distances yet, but I will be next year I am sure. From my house to the Boat ramp on base is like 5-6 miles, and the other Boat Ramp I use is 17 Miles away. Next year I am looking to go places!

Since I just got "The Boat" I don't want to venture to far from home till I know everything is working as it should. I do have a few things I want to fix and I few things I have to fix over the winter, This season is all about having Fun close to home. Almost all my outings are at night, so being safe is important.

[mcoffey]

Yeah, that weight shocked me too. I mean, how can my bow rider weigh more than a cuddy? They are the same lenghth, I am a bit wider though. Figured they should be close to the same with yours a bit more than mine. Does the trailer still have the capacity label on it? If it does I would be looking at the GVWR once you do know your weight.
And do agree with Dan, the rear does need to be on bunks or rollers (all the way to the end).

So, possible issues I see are:
Trailer too short/small for size/weight of boat (can cause overload or incorrect center of gravity)
Center of gravity is off and you are too tail heavy (adjusting front stop or sliding axle back could correct this)
Tires are shot and she is jumping around like a 1 legged man in a butt kicking contest :) (I would think you would notice this though)

As far as TW (Tongue Weight) goes, you should be around 10-15 percent of GW (for single axle that is). So if the boat is 3000 lbs, you want about 300 lbs TW.

[ss3964spd]

Definitely put the whole mess on a scale if you have one available. Pull the trailer and boat onto the scale, unhook the truck, pull the truck off, see what it weighs. You can do the math of the other stuff later. If it's a steel, single axle, trailer I'd guess it weighs around 1000 pounds - maybe even less.

Dan

[9Ball]

Having trouble uploading pictures here so I created a sutterfly site for the pictures.. http://theboat92.shutterfly.com/

[biggerseagar]

A boat that size just be on a tandem trailer.........

[mcoffey]

I don't know, seems smaller than mine that is for sure. My beam is 8'4" where yours shows to be 7'4". Maybe it does weigh <2000lbs? It is an Escort trailer, same as mine. The sticker is all worn off, same as mine :(
It seems possible that the trailer is correct (at least in size and capacity) for this boat.

Go ahead and check the scales as you mentioned, that is the only way to know for sure. You can then use a bathroom scale to check the tongue weight once you know total weight.

[9Ball]

The funny thing is.... The tongue weight I am sure is good... However, the bow of the boat I can pickup with two fingers.

[mcoffey]

Well that's not good. You should not be able to lift the bow off the front roller with just 2 fingers. Curious if when you lift it like this, is the boat lifting off the front end of the bunks or are you raising the tongue and it is tilting at the axle? The pics seem to show it is pretty far up on the bunks and the bunks are not that short. The axle seems to be towards the stern a bit but have no idea where the C of G is on that. I have the dual axle and yours seems to be close to where my rear axle is (and even seems centered on the bunk). Not sure at this point, still probably good to scale it and check tongue anyway so to see how much she weighs. We know a single axle can only do about 4000 MAX.

[mcoffey]

Doesn't look too far off from this 1990 2100SC.
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1990-Maxum-2100-Sc-99195043
The axle actually looks further forward than your and the bunks seem a bit longer but the angle is not quite the same so maybe I am seeing things.

[9Ball]

Doesn't look too far off from this 1990 2100SC.
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1990-Maxum-2100-Sc-99195043
The axle actually looks further forward than your and the bunks seem a bit longer but the angle is not quite the same so maybe I am seeing things.

If you look at the bow it not evin touching the roller.

[9Ball]

Well that's not good. You should not be able to lift the bow off the front roller with just 2 fingers. Curious if when you lift it like this, is the boat lifting off the front end of the bunks or are you raising the tongue and it is tilting at the axle? The pics seem to show it is pretty far up on the bunks and the bunks are not that short. The axle seems to be towards the stern a bit but have no idea where the C of G is on that. I have the dual axle and yours seems to be close to where my rear axle is (and even seems centered on the bunk). Not sure at this point, still probably good to scale it and check tongue anyway so to see how much she weighs. We know a single axle can only do about 4000 MAX.

The tongue of the trailer is not moving at all....just the boat!

[ss3964spd]

Hmmm. With the boat on the trailer the transom should be on the bunks and the bow should be against the roller. If the winch and roller are adjusted correctly the winch cable/strap should have a completely, or nearly so, straight pull so that when the bow is snugged up against the roller the eye ends up just below the roller.

Here's a quick test for ya Todd. With the boat loaded but the trailer disconnected from the truck, use the tongue jack to raise/lower the tongue so that it is at the height it would be if it were hitched to the truck. Now, if you can easily pick up the tongue then you don't have enough tongue weight - the boat is too far back on the trailer. If you can't easily pick up the tongue, but can still easily wiggle the bow around, then I'd guess that the bunks don't extend far enough forward to support the bow, or something on the trailer is flexing like crazy - like the bunks themselves (possibly rotted) or the brackets that hold the bunks to the trailer.

Dan

[9Ball]

Hmmm. With the boat on the trailer the transom should be on the bunks and the bow should be against the roller. If the winch and roller are adjusted correctly the winch cable/strap should have a completely, or nearly so, straight pull so that when the bow is snugged up against the roller the eye ends up just below the roller.

Here's a quick test for ya Todd. With the boat loaded but the trailer disconnected from the truck, use the tongue jack to raise/lower the tongue so that it is at the height it would be if it were hitched to the truck. Now, if you can easily pick up the tongue then you don't have enough tongue weight - the boat is too far back on the trailer. If you can't easily pick up the tongue, but can still easily wiggle the bow around, then I'd guess that the bunks to entend far enough forward to support the bow or something on the trailer is flexing like crazy - like the bunks themselves (possibly rotted) or the brackets that hold the bunks to the trailer.

Dan

OK I'll check it out when I get home tonight.
Todd

[9Ball]

Hmmm. With the boat on the trailer the transom should be on the bunks and the bow should be against the roller. If the winch and roller are adjusted correctly the winch cable/strap should have a completely, or nearly so, straight pull so that when the bow is snugged up against the roller the eye ends up just below the roller.

Here's a quick test for ya Todd. With the boat loaded but the trailer disconnected from the truck, use the tongue jack to raise/lower the tongue so that it is at the height it would be if it were hitched to the truck. Now, if you can easily pick up the tongue then you don't have enough tongue weight - the boat is too far back on the trailer. If you can't easily pick up the tongue, but can still easily wiggle the bow around, then I'd guess that the bunks don't extend far enough forward to support the bow, or something on the trailer is flexing like crazy - like the bunks themselves (possibly rotted) or the brackets that hold the bunks to the trailer.

Dan

Ok, I lowered tongue so that it is at the height it would be if it were hitched to the truck. Took everything I had to try and pick it up. The boat however, i can pickup with two fingers. I also inspected the Bunks and they are like new. I did notice that the whole trailer flexes as I pickup the bow of the boat. Everything looks to be in great shape. No corrosion issues or damage. Just a lot of flex. Soooooo I am thinking that the trailer my not be rated for the weight of the boat. I think I am going to take it to a dealer and see what they say.

[wooolffy]

My brochure from when new states 3100 lbs dry. Nothing on it. So I have a tandem axle trailer rated for 4400 lbs. It is a roller trailer.

[9Ball]

Oh WOW, thats almost twice what I thought.... I wish I knew what my trailer was rated at. but the more I think about it... The trailer I have is not rated for the weight of the Boat. I'll be heading to a dealer this friday to find out. I'll post what they tell me!

[9Ball]

I sent a email to http://www.maxumcustomercare.com/ and here's what they sent me 1984 I also have 1992_Maxum_2100SC_.pdf344.3 KBX 1992_Maxum_Runabouts.pdf But I can't figure out how to upload them here (too big I think) if any wants a copy please give me your email and I'll send it to you. The Boat weighs 2570 Lbs (Dry) and the trailer I should be using is a WT20P1B or WT20G1B.

[johnmartin348]

You have not mention the weight of your boat.So it is difficult to say which trawler you need. But you can contact dealer they will give you proper advice.